Plans and limiters

What can I do any advice please

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20/03/2019 at 14:50
I'm probably the millionth person over the years to post about this so I apologise but feel the need.??? I've been looking for a training plan for a sprint triathlon. I have 24 weeks to my first event. It's open water just to add to the complexity. My background is in cycling and racing history is time trialling training about 10hrs a week a long time ago. I've been looking at training plans and am assessing my limiters. I have about 5hrs a week due to family and work commitments that I can shoe-horn training into and maybe a little more close to the event. The only event that can work is 24 weeks away in September "19, My dilemma is this. the engine, is good. my body is ok. I can easily top the sessions endurance wise The plans that I'm seeing seem light. I can easily swim 1500m mixed stroke I can easily run 3 miles (limited to my work lunch hour!) cycling I can ride 3hrs at a strong pace (time constraints again) Endurance wise I could do the distance/time.??? My concern and issue at the moment is the swim. I can't swim more than 50m FC without running out of oxygen (No, I'm not holding my breath) and I'm struggling to resolve this massive problem no matter how much I read and test. I need to get from a gentle 25m FC in a pool to 750m open water swim in 24 weeks. Guidance is what I need and am struggling with finding it. I can swim until the cows come home but not in freestyle. Can you lead me in the right direction please?
20/03/2019 at 17:05
Local pools have adult lessons or can do 1:1 sessions. Most tri clubs have coached swim sessions but may expect more than 50m from you but do give them a try.

There have been a number of posts on this forum with some good answers. Have a search
20/03/2019 at 17:05
Local pools have adult lessons or can do 1:1 sessions. Most tri clubs have coached swim sessions but may expect more than 50m from you but do give them a try.

There have been a number of posts on this forum with some good answers. Have a search
23/03/2019 at 11:39

thanks

25/03/2019 at 13:48

Hi

You should have a good engine as you say and so fitness is not lacking, its how you approach swimming that´s probably not helping. Breaststroke is fine if you stick with it (breathing is obviously easier) but freestyle shoukd be fully achievable in 24 weeks.

The following blogs should help you a lot in terms of breathing, being relaxed (as you should be breathing better) and also to simply develop your swim strength to match your overall fitness:

https://mastersoftri.com/our-buoyancy-debate-input-part-1/

https://mastersoftri.com/our-buoyancy-debate-input-part-2/

https://mastersoftri.com/developing-the-push-in-the-swim-stroke/

There are various other blogs on our website that relate and should help with your swimming.

Get yourself a pull buoy and use it for all your swims, as well as some paddles - and hopefully the blogs will explain why this is beneficial

We coach swim camps if you want a good kick start, but the above should help you a lot

Martin


Martin Hill

www.mastersoftri.com

martin@mastersoftri.com

 

25/03/2019 at 15:26

I went into my first sprint triathlon as a complete noob -  I couldn't swim half a length front crawl nevermind the 500m I needed to do.

The leisure centre that organised the event ran an 8 week beginners course, and those 8 weeks were enough to get me from "zero" to "finisher".

24 weeks is a luxury! I've seen Marathon training plans shorter than that!

It's sounds like you just need to find your breathing rhythm - but the best piece of advice I can give you is to find an adults swimming class. Go to that once a week, and then have another swim session on your own practising - you'll be away in no time!

25/03/2019 at 22:49
Thanks for the advice both. I have found that website MARTIN but haven???t had any time to really look at it. Paul, the luxurious 24 weeks is actually a slightly frustrating because I???d have preferred something earlier than that. I???ve had difficulty in getting an event that I???m in the country for or isn???t my daughters 6th Birthday party! End of May has now become family holiday/training camp . That???s my ???get in the sea??? deadline so 7 weeks away.

My swimming neighbor is going to take a look at me tomorrow and I???m in touch with a tri coach in the Cardiff international pool and open water swimming club too. Let???s see how it goes.
28/03/2019 at 06:53

Well, I went down to the Cardiff International Pool on Wednesday.  Having not swum in a 50m pool since I was a child in the old Empire pool in Cardiff xx years ago, I met up with Chris Hill at his session.  I walked in amongst the 4% fat brigade feeling decidedly flabby.  After 200m of swimming at my own, inefficient floundering pace. I got a bit of a drill to do.   and then another, What a difference a drill makes!  I found myself doing ok.  Interesting points that came from this.  My position and body ln the water are good.  phew.  What is interesting is that whilst I thought that I was running out of air what I now think is that I am almost hyperventilating.  finding my self gasping .  my body is used to getting air at will so has not needed to be as efficient.

 

Armed with that realisation, I can now move forward.

28/03/2019 at 09:38

Good stuff.

It takes a little getting used to but once you've got your rhythm  you'll stop thinking about it.

With regards to open water swimming - adding a wetsuit (and/or sea water) into the mix gives you much more bouyancy and as a result you'll swim faster. I've seen quite a few people "bottle it" for want of a better expression. At Mallorca 70.3 last year, my Mrs said she saw a guy abandon the swim at the second marker bouy - he must have been 50m out at the most (and could probably have waded back to the beach!). I felt sorry for the guy, he must have done the training beforehand to even turn up , but nerves got the better of him.

If you know you can do the distance in the pool, you can certainly do it open water too.

28/03/2019 at 11:57

Thanks, this is a stepping stone, a long journey. I've taken my first step to the water, I'm aiming for May into the sea.  I may as well target the warm waters of Mallorca.  then to the distance then next year olympic distance then after both my girls are in school..  Ironman.  There we are, it's in writing.

Edited: 28/03/2019 at 11:58
29/03/2019 at 10:11

I was in the same boat - went from doing my first sprint in 2014 to 70.3 Staffordshire & IM Mallorca in 2016. (I love the event in Alcudia - going out for my 3rd race there in a few weeks)

Just keep going in the pool, the breathing will become natural. You'll get to the point where you knock out the 500m race distance no bother and then just decide to keep going... half a mile... a whole mile - when I did that the first time it gave me a massive confidence boost as I always thought Ironman was beyond me, as I'd never be able to do the swim.

21/04/2019 at 21:59

My wetsuit arrived on Friday, tried it on for size on Saturday night and was in the water with a friend and a group this morning.  Apparently I chose the right day, calm, mild 10 degrees. It felt good. I didn't swim much but 30 mins of light swimming and trying it out. I felt it was a success. 

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